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Posted 10 July 2016 - 11:54 AM

Can we get an update or a new version since this is a main instance that guilds like to run and literally holding some together. It is pretty long overdue since it was originally made for pre-re and is a little too easy for most people. I doubt it was intended to be solo'd but we are at that point now.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 12:05 PM

...we have a new instance which is very similar to ET in the later version. It is called Infinity Space. Also coming with a new set of weapons and enchants

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 12:06 PM

awesome.. our grandchildren will love this.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 01:08 PM

It would be nice. It is way too easy to solo.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 01:21 PM

i love ro i only play ro huehuehue

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 01:24 PM

Can we get an update or a new version since this is a main instance that guilds like to run and literally holding some together. It is pretty long overdue since it was originally made for pre-re and is a little too easy for most people. I doubt it was intended to be solo'd but we are at that point now.

Any MvP outside Bio 3, are easy and soloable.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 01:26 PM

Any MvP outside Bio 3, are easy and soloable.

Maybe they should have 1 of the floors spawn a random bio 3/4 mvp

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 02:04 PM

Maybe they should have 1 of the floors spawn a random bio 3/4 mvp

A clever way to go about it.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 02:41 PM

Extension to floor 150

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 03:09 PM

I think ET should be untouched, and the MVPs themselves fixed.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 03:16 PM

...we have a new instance which is very similar to ET in the later version. It is called Infinity Space. Also coming with a new set of weapons and enchants

That feel when a level 157 Auto Shadow Spell Chaser can solo Infinity Space... I'm sure this is not the challenge OP is looking for.

Edited by donghyun83, 10 July 2016 - 03:18 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 03:42 PM

I feel like expanding on this a little.

ET itself is okay, it is the MVPs that are too weak. And to be honest, there is not a single damn order of MVPs you could introduce that would change this.

Take a look at this beastie:

http://www.divine-pr...e/monster/3092/

55.62m HP, and it is usually dead within 40 seconds or so in the groups that we do. That is an average DPS of 1,390,500. Tell me what MVP isn't going to fall to that :X?

You could increase an MVPs health pool ten times over, but that is stupid; you could triple it's damage, but that is stupid. The trick is, kRO needs to make MVPs feel like bosses again, which means implementing mechanics that make them a challenge, and renewed rewards that make it worth the investment.

Making more instances like ET is just stupid, because it's not always about the accessibility to hunt MVPs. It's about risk, reward and fun. Most people don't solo ET for the fat loots, they do it because they wanna improve themselves or show other people what they can do on their own.

So obviously making ET clones or trying to change it up with what we have now is just silly. With the sheer amount of DPS and same old silly mechanics, there isn't a simple fix to ET; hell, even the regular mobs are useless because 95% of the games regular mobs can be one shot.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 04:24 PM

I feel like expanding on this a little.
ET itself is okay, it is the MVPs that are too weak. And to be honest, there is not a single damn order of MVPs you could introduce that would change this.
Take a look at this beastie:
http://www.divine-pr...e/monster/3092/
55.62m HP, and it is usually dead within 40 seconds or so in the groups that we do. That is an average DPS of 1,390,500. Tell me what MVP isn't going to fall to that :X?
You could increase an MVPs health pool ten times over, but that is stupid; you could triple it's damage, but that is stupid. The trick is, kRO needs to make MVPs feel like bosses again, which means implementing mechanics that make them a challenge, and renewed rewards that make it worth the investment.
Making more instances like ET is just stupid, because it's not always about the accessibility to hunt MVPs. It's about risk, reward and fun. Most people don't solo ET for the fat loots, they do it because they wanna improve themselves or show other people what they can do on their own.
So obviously making ET clones or trying to change it up with what we have now is just silly. With the sheer amount of DPS and same old silly mechanics, there isn't a simple fix to ET; hell, even the regular mobs are useless because 95% of the games regular mobs can be one shot.

What about random order of MVPs. Same MVPs that currently reside there, just not in any particular order. It would be hard to code, I'd imagine, but not impossible.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 04:33 PM

What about random order of MVPs. Same MVPs that currently reside there, just not in any particular order. It would be hard to code, I'd imagine, but not impossible.

It still wouldn't change much, and would even further trample on the original idea of the tower.

Just buff them MVPs :X

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 04:34 PM

there is another game with similar concept as endlesstower. Their et is called tower of dawn or tod.

Thing from tod that i want to see in et:
1) Ranking list that reset every month. Kinda useless but meh, at least you can make other people know your name.

2) Random floor that reset every month. Basically, if it is on floor1 this month, it can be at floor10 next month.

3) Every floor require different setup or strat to pass them.
something like:
floor 10 boss is immune to range damage.
floor 15 boss is immune to melee atk.
floor 20 boss is immune to all atk except from magic damage.
floor 25 only take damage from healing skill.
floor 30 is a position bug floor. Where there is a bunch of unkillable range atk mob + boss that have jupitel thunder.

you get the main idea. heck, last month tod have a floor where you must unequip your weapon and run around attacking some random spawn to damage the boss while 1 tanker try to drag the boss agro away from party.

if you want to know more, just google tod.

I feel that this is a very fun concept, but I dont believe iRo or kRo will be able to do something similar.

btw, tod is divided into 2 stage. Tod Normal, 1 to 55 and tod Hard, 56 to 110.
TodNormal is something that can be brute force and solo by a decently gear character. While tod hard will require a specific setup, party, basically everything that you can ask from end game content.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 08:59 PM

That feel when a level 157 Auto Shadow Spell Chaser can solo Infinity Space... I'm sure this is not the challenge OP is looking for.

OMG

this is a faith for humanity.

hail horror toy factory gears, big buff for magic users

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 10:27 PM

yes after 10 years its is indeed time for a new endless tower. This new instance should be impossible to soloand force you to make a party of 12.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 11:14 PM

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It does look super interesting but like you said, idk if kro would wanna bother with it. And even if they were, we'd get that just in time for the 2300 apocalypse. :v

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 11:48 PM

yes after 10 years its is indeed time for a new endless tower. This new instance should be impossible to soloand force you to make a party of 12.

Nothing in this game is impossible to solo, specially knowing how kRO likes to design things

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 12:12 AM

OMG
this is a faith for humanity.
hail horror toy factory gears, big buff for magic users

HD Ko is my favorite Chaser. When I want to feel bad about my A.S.S. Chaser, I watch his videos haha. He solos Faceworm, Bios and other instances we still don't have.

Fuyu, we also need to be able to get the other equips he uses like the Flattery Robe for MATK and the Downtown Map for casting level 1 Increase Agi to complete this Chaser's build. Oh, and Penetration, lols. It's so far away, like a dream...

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 12:27 AM

yeah, the update starting horror toy factory, prontera instances and such really lift magic user compatibility on soloing. dat crazy flattering robe which gives matk based on base level, celine kimi ribbon, psychic wave autocast...the list goes on

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 01:35 AM

It's so far away, like a dream...

have faith in your dream and someday your rainbow will come smilin through, no matter how your heart is grieving if you keep on pestering, the dream that you wish will come true

p.s: keep bugging oda for the penetration (i wont be able to buy the set, but i will surely able to enjoy the drama) /gg

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